There seems to be more grousing about daylight savings time than usual, and considering how many time pieces these days automatically reset themselves, it's hard to figure out why, but the general theme is that DST isn't needed anymore. TPP is willing to bet that the writers of such opinions are urbanites, people who live in a totally artificial environment in the first place. An hour one way or the other means little in their artificial lives. However, for us working gardeners, that extra hour of daylight in the evening is just great. If not for working for a living, the daily schedule could be shifted to the actual daylight hours no matter what the clock says, but us 8-to-fivers need light in the evening. TPP shifts his schedule to sun time whenever he's working in the tropics, and one of his plants flowers (groan) at first light (about 5 AM). The people who are carping about DST obviously don't garden, so they don't see any use to having the minor inconvenience twice a year. This is a more general problem because urban areas are centers of population removed from nature so issues like DST and conservation in general are of little interest and yet they have the voting clout that determines issues. Do we need a gardeners lobby to prevent tampering with DST? If DST was done away with what would Hoosiers have to revolt against? Now if only someone could figure out how to re-program the internal cat it's-breakfast-time clock, and as you might guess they like the spring forward (Yea, early breakfast!).